basisvoorwaarden voor dialoog volgens D. Bohm

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Pathless Reality

P A T H L E S S R E A L I T Y J. Krishmamurti I maintain that the Truth is a pathless land, and cannot be approached by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or coerce people along any particular path. First understanding that, you will see how impossible it is to organize a belief. A belief being purely and individual matter, you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes crystallized, dead; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion to be imposed on others. This is what everyone, throughout the world, is attempting to do. Truth is narrowed down and made a plaything for those who are weak, for those who are only momentarily discontented. Truth cannot be brought down; rather, the individual must make the effort to ascend to it. You cannot bring the mountaintop down to the valley. If you would attain to the mountaintop, you must pass through the valley, climb the steeps, unafraid of the dangerous precipices. Organizations cannot make you free nor develop the inner man. No man from the outside can make you free, nor can organized worship, nor the immolation of yourself for a cause, make you free. Therefore, I am not concerning myself with the founding of religions, or new sects, nor the establishment of new theories and new philosophies; on the contrary, I am concerning myself with only one essential thing—the true freedom of man. I would help him to break away from all limitations, to free himself from all fears—from fear of religion, from the fear of salvation, from the fear of spirituality, from the fear of love, from the fear of death, from the fear of Life itself. My desire is that men should be unconditionally free, for I maintain that the only spirituality is the incorruptibility of the self which is essential; it is the harmony between reason and love. This is the highest reality, this is Life itself. True perfection, the harmony of the self, has no law. This must not be translated to mean chaos. It is above all law and above all chaos, because it is the seed of everything, that from which all transformation arises, and on which all things depend. If you desire that harmony of the self, in which is Truth, and that poise of self, in which is true creation, you must care for that self, which abides in each, and be concerned with that self. What is the self, the "I"? Where is the "I"? The "I" is the mind—in thought. The "I" is emotion—in love. In establishing harmony between mind and emotion, in creating that eternal poise, lies the unfoldment of Truth. Without understanding, the struggle between the mind and emotion creates fear. You are afraid to struggle and thereby to establish that understanding, that harmony within yourself. Rather than face that struggle, you have created around you unrealities: gods, mediators, saviours—childish toys—to comfort you in that fear. If you would establish that harmony, then worship, prayers, mediators, the seeking of comfort are unnecessary. You must come to it naturally as the flower blossoms of a morning. The struggle is purely an individual matter. I cannot tell you how to struggle. I cannot create for you new systems which will guide you in your struggle, nor give you comfort. You must be men, strong and free, not children always seeking shelter. To attain that harmony you must possess the quality of love, which is pure action. Your love at present is concerned with personal likes and dislikes. You dispute about what gods you should worship, what rites and ceremonies you should perform, what religions you should follow; that is your chief concern, instead of to acquire that quality of love which is without division, without limitation. You must acquire the harmony of pure action through struggle, through strife, through constant awareness and self-recollectedness. The mind and the heart are of the same substance, and you must look to the purification of that substance and make that substance—which is thought, which is love—incorruptible. The moment there is in thought separation created by the mind, there is limitation, and hence, sorrow. The moment there is in love the creation of personal likes and dislikes, there is limitation, and hence, sorrow. To make the mind and the heart free of limitation, free of corruption, is happiness, liberation, and Truth. This is the substance of a short talk broadcast by radio throughout the United States, and published by The Star Publishing Trust at Ommen, Holland.** **I found this text in a 4-page leaflet in the Theosophic Library in Amsterdam. According S.Weeraperuma's bibliography this talk was given in New York on 19 March 1930. On youtube one can find a short 6-minute recording mainly of the young Krishnamurti reading aloud this text or most of it in Ojai 1930. The above text was copypasted from http://www.oocities.org/athens/delphi/8825/pathless.html